>> brian: go to our web site and adopt up with. we'll see you tomorrow, everybody. >> gretchen: have a great day! things based on that. good morning, everybody. the u.s. is printing money to rescue europe. new fears all that cash may not make a difference, a dime's worth of difference. good morning, everybody. busy thursday here. i'm bill hemmer. huy are you doing over in? martha: i'm great. how is the voice? bill: i think turned corner. martha: he feels like a million bucks. sound like a buck 50. bill: i said a billion bucks. martha: we're just printing money so it doesn't matter. the dow we watched yesterday, it was roaring as we started the show yesterday. up 490 points on the day on the news of the huge euro bailout mostly from the u.s. this is the largest percentage gain of dow jones since march '09. now up 7% year-over-year. bill: analysts saying a

short-term fix is not the answer. leaders need to come up with a long-term solution with a massive debt problem that hits the entire continent of europe. stuart varney is with us. good morning. where do you want to start on this, stuart. >> yesterday europe rode to the rescue a short-term fix for europe's credit crunch. have not fixed in any way europe he's debt mess. two things are needed pretty soon. europe has to come up with its own huge pot of money to rescue it telephone. we're talking trillions here. number two, they have to change the rules in europe. the germans will have to dominant tax-and-spending policies. italians, greeks spaniards, frenchmen, how do you think that will go down? bill: this is big deal here at home. are you saying it is not a big deal over there? >> our use of american dollars to help them is a big deal here both politically and economically but it does nothing to

resolve europe's underlying debt problem which just rolls on and on and on and still is right at the cliff edge. yeah, i is a big deal here for us because we spend our money. it is not a big deal there because it didn't fix their problem. >> you say the debt situation in europe has not been solved and they're a long way from doing that? >> yes. bill: what does it say about our own debt situation here at home, stuart? >> the europeans arrived the at debt crutch a long time before we did but we're driving down that road and we'll face that crunch at some point in the future unless we reform. bill: i think it is important to remind people why the euro was created in the first place. this was the late '90s. they were getting creamed by the united states. that is why they wanted to compete with us. >> that's why they created the euro. they knew they were nowhere as efficient as united states of america. they wanted to create the united states of europe. round one, the euro currency. has been a dismal failure. bill: we see see that in

2011. stuart, see you at 9:20. we have a lot more to talk about. martha: in terms of the employment picture the economy is remains in rough shape. the number came in a little while ago, 402,000 claims came in last week. that is worries by 12,000 what economists expected. they expected the number to go down. we had been on a pretty decent trend with the weekly unemployment number. now the second week we see the number go up 402,000. the low we reached just a couple months ago, 375 a month ago i should say. 375,000. now we're back to 40,000. tomorrow you get the big number for the month of november. it is expected to hold above that 9% mark about 150,000 jobs. that will be the big number we're watching, bill. bill: a closer look how americans are affected about this. 14 million americans are unemployed.

that is the official number. nearly six million have been unemployed more than six months. this latest number says the struggle of finding a new job after losing one. more than 42% of all unemployed americans have been jobless more than six months. that is an enormous number that must get lower. right now it is not. martha: the fear of another government shutdown may be forcing the house speaker to play nice to some extent with democrats on this one. the lawmakers need to come up with a massive spending bill. don't you feel we talked about this a couple weeks ago because we did. now the deadline is december 16th or the government will shut down. this is like a rerun of an old picture. john boehner may end up punting teaming up with democrats closing this deal. boehner and other top republicans realizing they have to ditch more conservative priorities like changes in the health care law and cuts to the epa to avoid a much bigger crisis. here you go again doing a patchwork to get through the

week. bill: a little round and round. rules to speed up union elections have been approved by the national labor relations board, the nlrb. supporters of the rule say it will eliminate unnecessary delays workers filing for a vote starting a union and the day the vote is held. opponents including the u.s. chamber of commerce say it will deny companies due process. in the end it may all be a moot point, at the same time the house passed a bill to roll back that vote. watch that story on the hill. martha: if the labor board rule goes through it could help to ease tensions over a boeing manufacturing plant which we talked a lot about in south carolina. since south carolina is a right-to-work state the machinist union filed a grievance against boeing saying that the company was punishing union workers for past strikes. yesterday the machinist union announced it reached a tentative deal with boeing. so we're on top of that story in south carolina that has gotten a lost attention. now let's turn our attention

to egypt. first of course came the revolution. and now the vote is happening but the big question is what will it bring about? right now we're waiting for the results of an historic election. after millions of egyptians headed to the polls, many for the first time in their lives. first time in decades. hosni mubarak's name is not in the mix here. early indications the political parties tied to islamist extremists are doing best. there were a lot of folks who warned about this during the entire tumult carried out through the arab spring. it raised a lot of concerns about civil liberties and religious freedom in cairo and egypt. greg palkot joins us live. good morning, greg. >> reporter: martha, we are about three hours away from those first official results from the first round of regional parliamentary elections here. as you note the first free elections here since mubarak and then some. maybe the first free elections in decades.

some of the big stories a huge turnout, high as 70%. low levels of violence. as you also note the surge in the islamist parties, number one party by all projections will be the political wing, once banned, once violent, muslim brotherhood. a big surprise too as we approach the release of these results, even more extreme, more conservative islamist party doing well as well. in fact, one expert told me the islamist block in a potential new parliament here could be as big as 65%. that has got a lot of people wondering what a future government will look like, martha. martha: you know, it reminds you of the situation in iran back in the '70s. revolution and then and i in-sweeping of muslim leadership that led to huge changes. what is the implications in egypt be in if this party really takes over? >> reporter: we've been speaking to fishals martha. of the muslim brotherhood.

they say they are open. they are inclusive and pragmatic and community oriented. a lot of people on the street like that about them. we've also heard discouraging words from many women spoken to on the street worried what their status might be in a future government because the promotion of sharia law, islamic law. quickly on the foreign policy front, according to the muslim brotherhood they would have to reevaluate the relationship with israel. they might have to redefine a bit the word terror. they're waiting to see what the u.s. says and how it accept what is they have got going here. a lot of questions for the future, martha. martha: a lot of questions indeed. greg, thank you very much. let's take a bit of a closer look at the muslim brotherhood. its central mission to establish a islamic state based on islamic or sharia law which you heard greg refer to. it has 300,000 members in the muslim brotherhood. in 1954 the egyptian government banned the muslim brotherhood because of its suspected role in the assassination attempt on the

egyptian president. a full circle situation perhaps unfolding here in egypt. bill: what palkot talks about is so true. a region in turmoil is still a region in transition. the headline today from the muslim brotherhood. we don't know what kind of government will come out of cairo but we still don't know what kind of government will come out of libya. both these countries share a common border. egypt also share as common border with israel. as you know as you follow the headlines, israel is so concerned about the region in the steps that happened over the past year. throw into the mix what is going on in syria. we still do not have a firm grip over the hundreds who have been shot and killed based on protests inside syria in places like damascus and through that area. this alone would be enough to tell you the region is underway for enormous change. then you add into the mix, what is happening with iran most likely on the doorstep of a nuclear program. also what is happening down here in yemen.

this would be enough for one day. then you throw in iran and yemen and you see ultimately the issues and the concerns of israel that sits in this neighborhood now. the muslim spring or the arab spring we should say that started almost ten months ago is now moving into the arab winter. we wait to see how this turns out, martha. martha: bill, thank you so much, bill hemmer looking at that entire region. those are a few of the stories bill and i are watching for you this morning in "america's newsroom.". coming up a major scare at centre court after a routine performance for a cheerleader went horribly wrong. we'll tell you what happened there. bill: that was scary, right? more than half a billion of your tax dollars could not save sole sole from going solyndra going under. a fiery plea from a lawmaker to stop taking your money and throwing it out the window. martha: he is not running for the white house but new jersey's republican governor has a lot to say

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on his own people. bill: so far he has been resistant to that. the u.s. justice department has boots on the ground in alabama. they want to see themselves how that state enforces what is considered the most strict immigration law in the country. early reviews from the fed are not good. reaction from a man who oversees that law. responding now is the alabama attorney general, luther strange. welcome back to our program. >> good morning. thank you for having me. bill: what the feds are charging that the police have too much responsibility. they're taxed to the max and they can't do their job and also enforce this law. your reaction on that front first? >> well, i think that is purely speculative on their part. i've reached out to the justice department, asked them to cooperate with us so we ensure that the police are doing it correctly. i'm confident that our police officers are enforcing the law correctly and i have not heard reports. i would be very interested

in hearing what the feds have and asked them to share the information so we address any problems. they have yet to respond. bill: there is u.s. attorney in your state by the james of joyce vance, federal prosecutor for 31 counties northern alabama. they say significant problem for the cops, enforcing state law and trying to track down criminal immigrants. you're say you have no information on that or you have not heard evidence of that? >> we've been working very closely with our law enforcement officials to make sure do not do anything that impacts anyone's civil rights, that they do not profile anyone. that they use their normal procedures. we're not enforcing the immigration laws. if someone has a reason to be in contact with citizen or individual suspects here illegally though report that to the federal government. the federal government makes determination whether they're legal or not. our law is designed to help assist the federal government do their job. that is what i like to see the federal government actually do its job

enforcing the laws against illegal immigration. bill: that has been your position from the beginning. let me ask you this? how do you think it is going now with the new law? >> our law is little bit different from some of the other states we've been litigating this in two federal courts upheld a significant portion of our law. unlike some of the other states. so i think what we're seeing here, bill, is typical strategy. if you're losing in federal court which the federal government is at the present time, then you try your case in the press. so it has been interesting to me to observe several visits to alabama, several press conference, a lot of vague allegations without sharing any information with the local law enforcement officials on specifics and try to turn this into something that it is not. for example a civil rights issue or racial issue in some way. alabama's law, many people may not be aware of it, was passed by bipartisan legislature, republicans and democrats, blacks and whites. and so i think it is a little bit of a change the game strategy in washington and get away from law

enforcement. bill: i was not aware of that. if you win your case here and the feds don't trump state law, how does alabama change under this new immigration law? >> alabama will essentially go right on about its business like the other states are. simply gives a tool for the feds to use. state officer suspects someone here illegally. has a reason to be around that person. he reports that to the federal officials. they take action. they can not take action. we hope they will because in our experience the federal government abdicated their responsibility to enforce these laws. that's why you see utah, indiana, georgia, south carolina, all the other states getting involved because they have a problem he, they need to address it. bill: started in arizona. we'll follow your case. the feds argue you can not have individual laws in every state. i know you disagree with that we'll see ultimately who wins in the end. >> we will. bill: luther strange,

reaction out of alabama today. thank you, sir. martha: herman cain much on the hot seat this week telling our own neil cavuto he will make his decision on the future of his candidacy in the coming days. can herman cain hang in there? send me a tweet at martha maccallum. we want to know what you think about that. bill: a frightening moment at centre court. have you seen this? a dangerous fall for a cheerleader. the doctor is in the house to tell us what happened here.   

bill: it is 22 minutes past the hour. this is the first day of december. vice president joe biden says it is time to take off the training wheels in iraq. biden telling nbc that we're not claiming victory but he believes baghdad is able to defend itself. the power is back on at the airport in l.a. severe wind in los angeles causing a

short outage and delaying travelers. 97 mile-an-hour winds recorded yesterday and may not be over yet. hello winter. whiteout conditions in indiana, eight inches of snow making communities nearly impossible knocking out 22,000 in the foot hoosier state. martha, at 23 after the hour. martha: on the way out to the break we showed you a clip of this. a frightening scene on a bass ball court at michigan state. a 22-year-old cheerleader. watch this. the first girl comes down and the second one tumbles right. she fell basically as far as we know on the front of her face, on the front of her whole body without breaking that fall at all. there she is on the way out. taylor young falling face first. it was spartans game last night. she was giving the thumbs up as she was taken offer on a stretcher.

dr. steven garner joins me right now. we wouldn't see it that closely, having read how it happened, she fell face down onto the hardwood floor. >> with a quite a lot of speed on the way down. the sudden stopping does all the damage. the brain, within the skull, the skull is meant to protect it. the brain doesn't fill up the whole skull. when you fall it bounces around and hits the bone in the front and the bone in the back and you get a bruise or bleeding in the brain. martha: concussion, right? >> you get a little amnesia, you don't know what happened and experience unconsciousness. natasha richardson who had a minor injury during sking with bleeding in the brain. she may not have bleeding right away. it may show up 24 hours later. >> she needs to be monitored in the whole process. with natasha richardson they thought it was minor fall. >> not only the brain but the spinal cord. you can get a severe spinal

cord injury with the bony part around the spinal cord affected. only way to tell is mri. get a mri as well as physical examination. then the biggest artery in the body called the aorta, when you fall like that this type of injury you can tear it. may not open up and tear in a right away but maybe a few weeks later. >> will that be picked up an mri? >> maybe not. they have to do follow-up studies. this girl will not be out of the woods. if she had a concussion and contusion it irritates the brain. as you get older the irritation stays around to lead to other problems. i'm watching players and protected with helmets. cheerleaders we're doing more severe stunts, nothing. martha: good point. it is a great point. they have all the padding on of course but the cheerleaders are doing -- as in anything they get more athletic and stunts get more and more difficult as this goes on. should they do this on hardwood floor? >> where is the regulation? who is overseeing this. what if they go up to 50

people? where will it stop? martha: we hope she is okay. taylor young suffering a bad fall last night. our thoughts are with her and her family. they must be going through a big scare. >> good news if she is stable condition. her breathing and heart doing well. martha: always good to get your thoughts. calming influence. hopefully she will be fine that young girl. bill: 26 minutes past the hour. she vanished after appearing on "the people's court" and her ex-fiance is the prime suspect. so why did the mother of the missing mom hug the suspect after a bitter custody battle in court? we'll explain that. martha? martha: we're seeing quite a bit of this gentleman lately. chris christie calling out president obama. why he now says, americans have a quote, bystander in the oval office. so who ordered the cereal that can help lower olesterol

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that is the same as the terminology reevaluating and i'm looking at four factors first. the impact on my family. neil, i have denied these charges but the fact that sometimes they are distorted, it hurts my family when they are twisted sometimes in the media. the american people are starting to see through this whole character assassination on me. and so those are the things that i am reassessing and i will make the decision over the course of the next several days, starting with assessment with my family. bill: hang onto that comment a moment and look at the latest averaging of all the polling together. shows cain holding at 16%. that is good enough for the bronze at the moment. third place behind gingrich and romney. doug schoen former pollster for president clinton and fox news contributor. good morning. >> good morning, bill. bill: he will take about a week. will talk about his family over the weekend. you advised politicians before. what is going through herman cain's mind? >> two or three things. first, can he win?

second, if he decides that is likely he can't win, will he help or hurt his reputation by staying in the race and third, as he said, what is the reaction of his family? what do they want him to do? all of those factors will enter in. when they say they're reassessing, neil, bill, i'm sorry, you can rest assured, that they are thinking seriously of dropping out. bill: i gotcha. to follow-up, cavuto has twice the iq as me. >> not true. bill: right. he will get together with his family this weekend. yesterday he had very pointed words at democrats. >> right. bill: it is clear that herman cain believes that democrats are dropping the bomb on him. >> oh, i'm sorry, i thought you were going to play some sound. but bottom, line, i don't see there is any evidence that democrats saying or doing anything to herman cain or anybody else. bill: how do you know? >> i haven't seen any evidence. i read every story. there is no indication that

any democrat has gotten into this. if you think the liberal media is a proxy for the democrats then i guess, you know, you have some evidence but i see no direct evidence and it's a good charge but ultimately the american people are interested in the issues and they're interested in 9-9-9. they're not interested in --. bill: that is something herman cain has not had enough time to talk about because of this. i would not even call it a minor distraction. i would call it a major distraction. where is he next week? what does he do? >> that is really the fourth component, bill, if he can't get back and talk about the issues, if he will talk about as his lawyer requested yesterday, the cell phone records, the texting records and we're into a long marathon debate what was the nature of his contact with this woman who has come forward, this fourth woman, then i don't see how he can run a campaign because we haven't heard him on the issues. we haven't heard any discussion of the economy or

foreign policy from him. makes it impossible or virtually impossible to run a serious campaign. bill: we'll see what he comes up with. a headline next week anyway. thank you, doug schoen here in new york. >> thanks, bill. martha: new jersey's tough talking governor, chris christie, blasting president obama just for the second time this week. this time for standing on the sidelines he says as the u.s. sinks deeper and deeper into debt. take a look at it. >> every time there is opportunity to provide real leadership when things will be difficult to do, where it is not a guaranteed lay-up or a guaranteed photo up he walks. real leadership is not what you see in the white house right now. as i said before, i think it is a sad day in our country's history to have a bystander in the oval office, and that's what we have. martha: very strong words from a man who gets a lot of national attention these days. let's bring in another man who always gets a lot of national attention, independent senator joe lieberman is the chairman of the senate homeland security and governmental affairs

committee. we have budget things we want to talk to you. >> good morning to you, martha. good to be bact back with you. martha: does it shock you when you hear chris christie talk like that. >> he was at a partisan event, a event of republican governors. i say a couple things. governor chris they're expressing i hear it, most americans feel with the total lack of leadership in washington from both parties and both the executive and the legislative branch. i think the most important thing that we could do here is to get together across party lines and begin to solve some of the big problems we face. obviously the economy and jobs is number one. right next to it is cutting back the debt. i'm again involved in some discussions with members of both parties to see if we can get back to the simpson bowles, the president's own fiscal commission recommendation about bipartisan recommendation about how to get our government back in balance. issued one year ago today.

and nothing really has been done about it. martha: are you shocked though. back to the president for a moment. do you feel he has abdicated leadership on issue of the debt as chris christie charges? >> i don't but, let me say that there has been a lot of leadership from the president from early on. for instance on the stimulus program and then on health care reform. of course those are very controversial. there was some leadership over this past summer in which the president and speaker boehner looked like they were beginning to negotiate toward a bipartisan agreement to cut the debt but that broke down. and since then i think the president has felt he will leave it to congress to try to create a bipartisan beginning to a solution to the debt crisis we have. i frankly wish he had come out immediately and strongly for the simpson-bowles bipartisan debt reduction program a year ago today when it was first ish shrewd

and, i don't know whether that would have been enough to pass it but it sure would have helped. martha: well, that is exactly the kind of thing that i think people like chris christie are pointing to in this regard. want to get your thoughts on another thing. he was in new york last night, the president at a couple of big fund-raisers. this is quote we got in this morning at a big party thrown by mr. rosen here in manhattan with regard to how the administration has worked with israel. he says i try not to pat myself too much on the back but this administration has done more in terms of the security of the state of israel than any previous administration. do you agree with him on that? >> well, i would say first that israel has been fortunate that presidents and members of congress of both parties, by and large have been very strong supporters of the security of the state of israel because of our alliance and our shared values and democracy and all the rest.

it is true, and you will hear this from a lot of israeli leaders, president obama has been very good on supporting israel's military and its security. obviously there have been some very tough moments between israel and president obama on questions such as his call for a so-called settlement freeze and the statement that he wanted to have israel begin negotiations returning to the '67 borders. martha: right. >> i would say on the military security side the obama administration has been very, he has a good point. on diplomatic peace process i think it is less positive. martha: all right. i know today, this afternoon your committee will take a look at something we talked about here a fair amount on "america's newsroom." it is this issue whether or not congress is trading illegally or would be if they were regular citizens like the rest of us on information that they get. here's some sound from john boehner and nancy pelosi

when they were questioned about this. let's listen to this. >> good. >> i have not made any decisions on day-to-day trading activities on my account and haven't for years. i do not do it. haven't done it and wouldn't do it. >> i guess what i'm asking do you think it is all right for a speaker to accept very preferential favorable stock -- >> but we didn't. that isn't the case. martha: how big a problem is this, senator? >> well, first i've got to say such great bipartisan agreement between the current speaker and former speaker. we don't know how big a problem it is honestly. i want to make clear my committee today is not about finding whether there was guilt or innocence among, on any of the legislators that have been accused of using insider information to make stock trades and make money but the appearance of this is a real problem and i think that, the securities &

exchange commission is going to say in testimony submitted to our committee today they feel under existing law they could prosecute members of congress guilty of using insider information to make money but i think we've got to go beyond that in congress and because, you know, in public life perception matters. martha: right. >> if the public thinks that members of congress can use their public jobs to make personal financial gains, we've got to make explicitly clear that the law against insider trading relates to members of congress and our staff and shades some of the disclosure laws to make sure that the fullest amount of sunshine is on any stock trades that members of congress do. so i think something good and positive is going to come out of this today. martha: certainly there are ways, you know, have mutual funds and things independently managed you have no say over and perhaps that may be the way to go. >> that's true. >> senator lieberman, thanks very much for coming to "america's newsroom.".

>> see you too. bill: the line of the day. pelosi and boehner. martha: i didn't trade on insider stocks. neither did i. we have bipartisan agreement. bill: a new call to stop sending money to washington. fiery comments from a top senator. we will play that for you in moment. >> is your smartphone spying on you? if you have an android phone it might be. what you need to know about these new fancy technical gadgets that mr. hemmer is so enthralled with. they're watching you. bill: they're watching you mccallum. all of us. ♪ [ woman ] my boyfriend and i were going on vacation,

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martha: a call to end hazing at funeral for the drum major of the florida a&m university band. this is such a tragic story. robert champion, we talked about this the other day, was found dead after performing as part of the legendary marching 100 band. new reports that hazing may

have been involved in his death. >> any thoughts on hazing? >> it is an awful thing and we hope and pray it will be eliminated in this lifetime. >> the guy that did the eulogy said what everybody else should have been about this hazing crap that is going on and this should have never happened. martha: there are reports that 26 band members had been suspended for hazing two weeks before this young man's it death bill: leading republican now taking a shot at the white house in a showdown over extending the payroll tax cut and how to pay for it. watch this debate in d.c. mitch mcconnell blasting the administration's call to tax the rich to help cover the cost of it. >> this really sums up the whole story of this president and the economic policies he has promoted over the past few years. send your money to washington. so the president and his allies in congress can spend it their way, on things like turt -- turtle tunnels or

bailing out politically connected investors at failing solar companies. bill: the reference at the end was to solyndra. republican congressman mike mom pay yo from kansas is on the energy and commerce committee. good morning to you. >> good morning, bill. bill: what did you think of mcconnell's speech there at the end? >> he has it exactly right. this administration is deeply committed if we send more of our money from kansas to washington, d.c. and redistribute that money the world would be better. when you try to pick winners and losers, when you pick a particular energy sector or particular energy company with taxpayer money bad things happen. solyndra is one example of that. bill: do you think we're at the bottom of solyndra yet? >> we're not even close. just this week we have received a few more documents from the federal government telling us there were meetings, meetings where they were believing secretary chu about a meeting he would have with

the pet of the united states a couple months before the bankruptcy. so the administration knew they had an enormous problem and didn't shoot straight with the american people even after they squandered half a billion dollar taxpayer money. bill: secretary chu is department of energy secretary. you talked to him a few weeks ago during the hearing on the hill. are you saying someone is lying? >> we can't tell for sure. we still have documents we've subpoenaed. we know this month. we have not been able to find a single person in this administration who stood up to take accountability for a half a billion dollars taxpayer money gone awry. they knew when they made the original loan and put taxpayers behind investors in terms of recovery, when they restructured the loan when solyndra was already in trouble they knew they had a very bad deal and continued to put in taxpayer money. not a single person in the administration stepped forward to say i'm responsible, i'm accountable and made the terrible mistake with taxpayer money. bill: what you're alleging now based on documents you've seen this week, yesterday was it? >> yes, that's correct. i saw them yesterday.

bill: just yesterday you're saying that they knew about, you know, the potential for failure for this company months in advance and they went forward with the loan anyway? is that new? >> this is, this is after the loan has been made but before the bankruptcy. this is a e-mail which is clearly a preparatory e-mail inside the department of energy working to make sure when secretary chu went to the white house to brief the president of the united states he could give them the full story on the depths of the problems at solyndra. we don't know what took place in that meeting. bill: after the loan was made there was no way to take the money back, was there? it was gone. >> it certainly suggests they had known about this even before that. we don't know precisely when they knew the loan was in trouble but we know that solyndra officials came to capitol hill before my time in congress, briefed members of congress and told them things were fine when in fact solyndra was already in deep financial trouble. bill: mike pompeo, we know you've been on the story

from the very beginning. we appreciate your time today. >> thank you very much, bill. bill: on our website foxnews.com /americasnewsroom, click on the bya box about what is happening in the news. the lines are open right now. martha: bya, because you asked. one of the hottest issues is on capitol hill? whether or not you will still get the payroll tax cut. this is a huge, one part of the president's jobs bill that he wants to see happen. so how much money would you lose out of your paycheck every week if this doesn't get extended through january? we'll talk about that. bill: good question. it looks like an average warehouse in southern california but underground lies a stunning network of tunnels. what customs agents found inside. >> it is one thing finding a tunnel. now it is for my prosecutors and the agency agents to start doing the work that needs to be done in following up leads that we have.

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bill: so a sea of green for law enforcement just in time for the holidays. 32 tons of marijuana seized in one of the biggest pot busts in u.s. history. agent discovered an elaborate tunnel system yet again the size of six football fields near san diego, california. >> i don't think we ever definitely at 100% they didn't get anything through but i am extremely confident in, with the amount of surveillance and the amount of manpower and the work that the tunnel task force did and their expertise in these types of investigations that we got the tunnel on, as it became operational. bill: street value? $54 million worth of pot. a lot of green.

a lot of green. martha: so country singer mindy mccreed did i facing possible arrest in ongoing custody drama involving her 5-year-old little boy. she picked him up from his grandmother mother's house. she has custody of mother has custody of the child. she has 5:00 this evening to bring her home. here is what a spokeswoman said about that. >> he is fine. mrs. mccreddy was there. what we saw everything was good. martha: something apparnltly changed rather report -- report mccreedy is seven months pregnant with twins and will make it impossible to get it to the florida by the 5:00

okay deadline. reality shows and mug shots have given the public a glimpse of the singer's problems with domestic abuse, drug arrests and a suicide attempt. her mother was awarded custody of her 5-year-old son in 2007 and mother and daughter have been battling it out. mccreedy claims that her son is suffering physical emotional abuse at the hands of her mother. this is not a missing child case. miss mccreedy has not been charged will legal wrongdoing. miss mccreed did i's number one priority continues be safety of the her son. she has been fighting the florida court system to protect her son and bring him home, martha. martha: what do police have to say about all this? >> reporter: we got off the phone with the cape coral police who tell us they are waiting to see what happens in court today before taking any action. adding if she shows up then it is a family court situation. if she doesn't they will wait to see what the judge rules.

one potential outcome could be an arrest warrant. a family court spokesperson says this remains a serious problem. >> our job in the community is child safety and zander it supposed to be in approved placement here in lee county and he is not. until he is home safely, we will continue to work with law enforcement to bring him home. >> reporter: the boy's father, mccreedy's ex-boyfriend, billy mcknight who was arrested in 2005 arrested with attempted murder hitting and trying to strangle the singer. >> that is messy situation. laur a thank you very much. we'll talk more about the legal side. bill: he has been a spiritual fixture around the world for decades. he could now use our prayers. the latest on the reverend billy graham. we'll talk about that. martha: newt gingrich pumps up his conservative credit cred last night. is the romney getting concerned about the rise of

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don't wait. call now. martha: this is an interesting storyline right now in the race for the gop nominee. mitt romney is searching for a new strategy right now to try to fend off newt gingrich. of course mitt romney has really been the perceived frontrunner in many ways since day one, waiting out the serpblgs that michelle bachmann, then rick perry. who would have anticipated the rise of newt gingrich. will he be dispensed with perhaps as easily as perhaps the other ones have. that could throw a wrench into mitt romney's plans. good morning, everyone, we have a brand-new hour. bill: i'm bill hemmer, good morning, everybody. it is decision time for the romney camp. 34 days before the first caucus

in iowa, they fight back or hope newt gingrich implodes on his own. martha: gingrich talked to shaun hannity. he went on about how he thinks he is the more invisible candidate compared to romney. >> i'm clearly the more conservative candidate by any rational standard. i had ha 90% conservative union standing for 12 years. i helped lead the efforts to doe feet communism in the congress. i helped the speaker of the house balance the budget for four straight years. the first tax cuts in 16 years, take whatever your list of conservatism is, there are places in my career where i've done that stuff and i've been consistent about it. martha: and he's humble too, right? carl cameron joins me live in washington. carl, he helped to create supply-side economics. he helped to end the cold war.

how is mitt romney going to come back at all that? >> reporter: he's stepping it up and doing so in iowa, which is surprising. he does have an organization in iowa but hasn't spent a lot of time there. romney is hitting the air waves in the first caucus state with his first ad. he is touting his business experience with tv ads. it's a clear sign that he is feeling the pressure and knows he has to ramp up in the hawk-eye state. >> i spent my life in the private sector. i've competed with companies around the world. i know how companies grow. we are going to have to cut spending. >> reporter: look for romney too subject plea play up his strong family values, married to wife ann for more than 40 years, as a not so subject contrast to gingrich who has been married three times. romney knows taking heart attacks on gingrich on his record could backfire.

he is perfectly happy to leave the attacks on gingrich's baggage to others. ron paul rips gingrich up with collaborating with pelosi on kaoeupl a climate change. michelle bachmann is calling his views on immigration the most liberal in the race. he too has a lot to do in iowa. martha: he said he regretted sitting on the couch with nancy pelosi photos, which his rivals will pull out from time to time. let's take a look at the polls. it goes to the kwef -- look at that 26% for gingrich in south carolina. this is where herman sane had put all of his eggs in one basket. he has slipped to third place. in florida, gingrich is at

35.4%. >> reporter: south carolina and florida for gingrich to have this lead looks how wide open and how long the battle will go. in iowa and new hampshire gingrich doesn't have an organization. he missed important paperwork to file for delegates. he only has four staffers in iowa. he'll have a fifth tomorrow. romney has more boots on the ground. he's dominating where the buzz is concerned. martha: good to see you as always. bill: this topic was on the mind of the whose who of the republican governors. there ar is only one month before they start casting ballots in the race. they say the choice for change will be clear. once the party settles on one candidate. here is the virginia governor. >> you've got eight candidates vying for the nomination. the president gets a pass. bill: steve harrington is live

in orlando. is the overall mood optimistic about next year? what are they saying down there, steve, good morning? >> reporter: good morning, bill. definitely guarded optimism here in orlando among the republican governors. they consider president obama -- >> the best way for our party to move forward and our country to move forward is to go back to our states and do our jobs and set an example of what real leadership looks like. it's not what you see in the white house right now. >> reporter: governor bobby jindal of louisiana make the point because of the high unemployment record he sees it difficult for president obama to run on his record in 2012, bill. bill: some have gone on record supporting one candidate or another. do you get a consensus of who

they are lining up behind, if anyone in particular, steve. >> reporter: no, actually very few endorsements coming out this week. many of the governors staying on the side lines. the most eagerly sought out endorsement of governors from early primary states, such as south carolina and florida. >> as we all know it's going to come down to florida. it's going to come down to our primary on the 31st of january. i still think it's going to be the candidate that has the best plan for jobs. >> reporter: governor scott has a lot of company on the side lines. political pros still deeming this race too unpredictable to jump in with an endorsement yet. bill. bill: i'd love to be a fly on the wall in that room. thank you my friend from orlando. martha: the reverend billy graham has been hospitalized in north carolina. the 93-year-old preacher is waiting to hear according to these reports whether or not he has pneumonia. his spokesman says he was admitted to the hospital eave was suffering from a cough and a

slight fever e. says graha. he says graham is in good spirits after a full round of medical test. we wish him well. bill: we sure do. the unions in greece protesting against new budget-cutting measures. they are calling for a 24-hour strike over job suspensions and pay cuts in the public sector. the party secretary in greece saying workers were paying the price for, quote, capitalists crisis. they are promising to speed up painful reforms over a budget crisis that threatens the world's largest economy. martha: the pressure is building. the union union approving new sanctions on 180 iranian companies and people. this comes on the heels of that attack. we showed you some of the pictures from it earlier this week on the british embassy in tehran. amy kellogg is live in london. what does this mean? >> reporter: these new sanctions target 180 individuals and entities, mostly associated with

iran's revolutionary guard. the eu did decide to take further action. they agree that further action, further sanctions do need to be taken, problem below on iran's energy, financial and transportation sectors, but that is very complicated. the trigger has been pulled for discussions on the technicalities involved and mitigating risks especially when it comes to the potential of sanctions iranian oil, which could cause world oil prices to go autopsy and allow iran simply to sell its oil somewhere else for a very good price. there have been several rounds of sanctions against iran. it's having a difficult time procuring material for its nuclear program. it's banks are squeezed. still, it is keeping apace with that nuclear program as we understand it seems at this point nothing has kept those centrifuges from spinning. >> revenues this year from oil sales are expected to be a record $96 billion.

frankly, the expenditure on their nuclear program is probably a few hundred million dollars. >> reporter: so the point there, mart that, is that iran, despite everything that is going on is still able to afford its nuclear program. martha. martha: it seems like the sanctions really have not worked. >> reporter: well, there is a lot of debate about that, obviously. what we can say is for example that attack on the brat i shall embassy in iran that appears to have been closely linked to britain's decision the other day to sanction iran's central bank in its entirety, which is a have dramatic move, something britain has never come before in terms ever cutting off another country's financial sector. others say iran is not changing its pattern with regard to the nuclear program. what we might see going forward is acts of sant of sabotage. bill: stunning pictures in iran

with kids taking over that embassy. should not happen that day. dale smith got a big hug from michelle parker's mother today after a decision in court. why was that? martha: the supercommittee, not so super, they failed on any deal to cut the nation's $15 trillion in debt. the military has to face huge automatic cuts. one democratic member of that committee says republicans are trying to weasel out. bill: a warning from tpropb congress to their own leadership, do not mess with taxes with any americans. a debate comes from both sides. >> how come they can break their oath when it comes to raising your taxes, but not break their oath when it comes to raising taxes for wealthy people?

bill: i want to show you an interesting picture right now. this is the president of

tanzania. to his left is former president george bush traveling in africa with the former first lady laura bush. today is world aids today. there is a link up to tanzania to the white house where presidents obama and clinton are listening as well. we'll drop in there for a moment as soon as we hear from the former president. martha: there are new reports that house republican leaders are now warning the rank-and-file that the image of the entire party may be at risk if they do not support president obama's payroll tax cuts, to extend them into the new year. meanwhile president obama targeted republicans on that very issue. here is what he said. >> some republicans used to love these tax cuts until i proposed them. [laughter] >> suddenly they started lining up against them. a lot of them have sworn, they've taken an oath, we are never going to raise taxes, as long as we live, religious lee. republicans said they are the party of tax cuts, that's what they said. a lot of them have sworn and

oath to never raise taxes on anybody as long as they live. how is it that they can break their oath when it comes to raising your taxes, but not break their oath when it comes to raising taxes for wealthy people? martha: all right, so you get the idea, right? a little context on all of this, the social security payroll tax cut was part of last year's tax agreement that also extended the bush era tax cuts. without the extension about 160 million americans will see their taxes go up if they don't keep that payroll tax cut in there. for a family earning $50,000 a year that amounts to a tax increase of about $1,000 for the year. so what are both sides going to do about this? let's talk to our great panel, gretchen hamel. christopher hahn, a fox news contributor. gretchen ham ellis the former spokesman of the woman's

conference. great to have you. >> great to be here. martha: the story is behind closed doors john boehner and cantor said look if you're a republican you simply cannot be on the side of raising people's taxes, end of story, period. this after senator jon kyl said you know what if it's not paid for with spending cuts, maybe we shouldn't go for it. what say you? >> this is something that they have been struggling with. they are trying to be a responsible party. they are trying to do this responsibly. to do that responsibly you have to find ways to pay for it. everyone keeps talking about the identity crisis that republicans are facing right now because they are not for tax cuts, foe are for tax cuts. what about the democrats? aren't the democrats doing the same thing? just last week they were wanting to raise taxes, now they want to tut taxes, aren't they facing the same identity crisis. martha: are you facing a personal identity crisis christopher hahn. >> i'm quite comfortable with my identity. we want to make sure that the middle class gets their tax cuts

and that the wealthiest americans are paying their fair shaeurbgs it's simple as that. republicans never cared how we were going to pay for tax cuts when we were giving away the bush tax cuts which cost us trillions of dollars on our deficit. now that they found this new religion, if the middle class, people like you and me, hard-working people -- martha: we'll get to that later. senator cain picked on long island and oh was your former boss mad about that. senator heller from nevada had an idea how to pay for it. he said you should cut the federal workforce by 10% over a period of five years and trim benefits for the wealthiest americans. my question for you, chris is why not trim benefits for the wealthiest americans, i think he means means testing for some of the entitlements, why not just do that rather than raising taxes on the wealthiest americans. are you okay with that?

>> simpson bowles kind of called for that. i am for some sort of means testing. i am not for holding this up so that many americans, middle class, hard-working people have a tax increase when they can least afford it. i think that the republican party has to get their act together or they are losing their biggest issue next year. martha: the biggest issue for republicans seems to be, look, you have to be fiscally responsible if you're going to give people money you have to find some way to pay for it, right? are they giving up that part of their argument if they say, you know what we just can't back off this payroll tax cut right now. >> first of all we should be making those cuts any ways. we should be freezing that way and scaling back benefits for those who can afford more. we should be doing that any way. the fact that we have to debate that now is lewd today rust. that is band date cutting. we should make permanent cutting

and range in our debt. i hope chris and i have an opportunity to sit here next year when we are talking about the bush tax cuts. i would love to use his talking points against him then, because that's exactly what we'll be doing. we'll be raising taxes on all those middle americans that we're so concerned about now. it's funny how he uses those talking points when they are convenient for them. martha: what do you say, chris? >> martha, here is the thing, republicans have always said that tax cuts pay for themselves. here is one that i think actually does. it puts the money in the pockets of americans that will actually spend the money. if you're middle class america you get a tax cut like that you spend it. martha: the bush tax cuts do the same thing, don't they. >> if you're rich you have enough money to do whatever you want. you don't need the federal government giving you more. martha: that's why i'm saying that it looks like the other senator from nevada, senator

heller may have touched on something. why don't you trim benefits for the wealthy instead of raising taxes on the wealthy. it sounds like both of you agree on that. how come we can't get the folks in congress to change the tax code, trim benefits, do some means testing. those things resonate with american people. they are just shaking their heads and saying, why isn't that just happening? >> because they are putting politics before economics, that's it. martha: apparently they are. chris, last thought, then we've got to go. >> gretchen and i aren't standing for election but we agree on that. i think simpson bowles was very clear. it needs to be revisited in the congress judge why doesn't the president go back to similar on bowles, chris. >> the president has been pointing to simpson bowles a lot. >> he had the opportunity to push for it, he didn't. >> so did ryan and ryan voted against it twice so -- martha: thanks you guys. gretchen and chris. my best goes out to all the people of long island, sorry

about that insult. >> we appreciate that. martha: as a new jerseyer i sympathize. bill: i feel your pain. a child custody dispute pitting a grandmother against her daughter who is also a country music star. judge alex weighs in on mindy mccready's case. ♪

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martha: we want to show you something here. this is in tanzania. this is president bush and mrs. bush and their daughter's first visit back to africa since he was president. he is hugely popular in africa for the work that he did to help to solve the aids issue here. let's listen to him for a new minutes now. >> it's a fabulous time to say thanks. thanks to the thousands of

people who were motivated. thanks to people like bono, thanks to the people in the audience who continue to care about this battle that can be won. the world aids day is also a day to recommit ourselves. i was asked earlier, what's it like to come to tanzania on world aids day? i said it's a day to see success but it's a day to renew commitment to making sure that we all use our god-given talents to save lives. i understand we are in tight budget times. the wealthy nations are going through budgetary struggles. when you go through budgetary struggle it seems like to me the best thing to do is to set priorities, and to focus on that which is effective. there is nothing more effective than pepfar. the reason i say that is i'm not guessing. i not only talked to the

president of tanzania, it's because the number of people living today because of pepfr is staggering. there is no other priority. this is something american citizens must understand and our government must understand. to whom much is given much is required. we are a blessed nation in the united states of america, and i believe we are required to support effective programs that save lives. god bless you. [applause] >> thank you mr. president. martha: there is bono in the crowd who obviously has been very supportive of the work that has been done for aids and to cure aids and to get the medication in people in africa who need it so desperately, and it was available to many places all around the world but not there. in ten years they have done a tremendous amount of work.

no president has done as much for the aids issue and for the people of africa has president bush. he has been welcomed with open arms to tan toda tanzania in his first visit. it is a big occasion for the bush family to be welcomed with open arms. now we are waiting for president obama who will speak on this too. there are two things going on, tanzania, and washington as well. here is president obama to take up his part of world aids day recognition. we'll listen to president obama as well. >> thank you, everyone. [applause] >> please have a seat. well thank you, sanjay. it is an honor to be with you today and follow the president, and president bush, to bono and alicia, to the one campaign,

thank you for bringing us together. because of your work all across africa there are children who are no longer starving, mothers who are no longer dying of treatable diseases, fathers who are again providing for their families. and because of all of you so many people are now blessed with hope. we've got members of congress who have done so much for this cause who are here today and we want to thank them. let me also thank president bush for joining us from tanzania, and for his bold leadership on this issue. i believe that history will record the president's emergency plan for aids relief as one of his greatest legacies, and that program, more ambitious than even leading advocates thought was possible at the time, has saved thousands, and thousands and thousands of lives, and

spurred international action, and laid the foundation for a comprehensive global plan that will impact the lives of millions. and we are proud that we have the opportunity to carry that work forward. today is a remarkable day. today we come together as a global community, across continents, across faiths and cultures, to renew our commitment to ending the aids pandemic once and for all. if you go back and you look at the themes of past world aids days, if you read them one after another, you'll see the story of how the human race has confronted one of the most devastating pandemics in our history. martha: we are listening to president obama. we showed you some of what was going on in tanzania. this is the words aids day take place in washington d.c., a very important day.

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mckeon chairman of the arm's services committee wants to make sure the cuts don't happen. good morning to you. how are you doing. >> great, bill. bill: i appreciate your time. i don't know what your strategy is here. democrats are going after you and others. congressman becerra said you are trying to weasel out of this. what do you say to the congressman? >> well if he had done his job and they had been successful we wouldn't have to worry about it. i think one thing that the american people need to know is we do have a serious problem. we have a serious financial problem, but we can't solve that problem on the backs of our military, or who is going to have our backs the next time we do have a problem, the next time somebody attacks us? i think if people understood that out of our total budget 20% of it goes to defending the country, and out of that first tranche of cuts that we have, we said everything should be on the

table, defense should be on the table, i understand that, but defense was half the table. we cut almost a half a trillion dollars out of defense. bill: some are arguing that that's what democrats wanted in the beginning. a series of videos out, you talk about irreversible damage. how so? >> well the 500 billion cut is before the supercommittee. that was already done. that will take place in the next budget cycle, so we'll be cutting about 50 billion a year over the next ten years. then you add the sequestration on top of that, it adds about another 5, 600 billion cuts to defense. you're looking going forward of about, if this were allowed to happen, about $100 billion a year cut out of the defense budget. bill: what do you think is the best card you have to play, then? because house speaker john boehner has said we have to forge ahead with our

commitment. president obama has that veto threat in case any of this is reversed. what did you pull out of your pocket there? >> a card, i just happened to have a card. you said the best card. when i went to congress about 19 years ago we had 172 army battalions, maneuver battalions. if this supercommittee because of the failure and the sequestration kicks in that would be cut to between 60 and 70. we had 546 navy ships. it would go down to 238, the smallest navy since before world war i. united states air force fighters, 4355. it would be down to 1512. strategic bombers, 282, down to 101. i think that is a very good card to play when you look at the world, is not exactly safer. bill: i think you make a compelling argument. where do you cut a deal to make

sure that doesn't happen? >> well, right now everybody is focused on just getting out of town, doing all of the other things that are just necessary that have to be done before december 16th. myself, i'm really focused on getting our defense authorization bill down. it's on the senate florida, should be finished up torpbgts and we'll gtonight, and we'll go into full bore on the conference report. we want to get that done before december 16th. probably -- bill: go ahead, i'll let you get your last point in there, sir. >> i think when we come back after the holidays we will really bore in on this. as we go through the budget cycle people say, we don't have to worry, it doesn't kick in until a year from january. the budget cycle starts october 1st of next year, so if they are not thinking about it and planning for it, we could be -- it could be catastrophic. bill: we'll keep in touch with you and your office and see

which way this goes. thank you for this time, it's an hopb tore have you on. buck mckeon from capitol hill. martha: what is going on in egypt where we could be seeing a move towards hard line islam in that country? we are awaiting the results of the first round of elections that have been going on over the past couple of days, since hosni mubarak was ousted from power. the early indications are that the muslim brotherhood will take up about 40% of parliament. then you go on to the presidential elections later in the year, and what that might portend for that. john bolton, former ambassador to the united nations joins me now. good morning, sir, good to have you here. >> good morning. martha: i'm struck by the fact that everybody was so joyous about the arab spring and about the end of hosni mubarak. you were one of the most outspoken waoepl we talked to saying look, you know what hosni mubarak might have been -- keeping him in place might have been a better mover. the response t move.

the response to that was very negative. what do you see about what is developing here? >> the election results from egypt are preliminary. there are a couple more rounds to go. it wasn't the entire country. but what we know so far is pretty close to the worst case scenario. muslim brotherhood by these early returns may be 40% of the seats in parliament, even more radical islamists may be 25%, with still a lot of voting in the rural areas yet to go. so that is very bad, and the presidential election for egypt in the spring obviously looking bad as well from that perspective. martha: i wonder about the vote itself. i know there are people in place to make sure the vote is carried out in a fair and democratic way. i did hear some reports of people saying they were afraid to vote that they were voting so long in elections that they knew were meaningless that they don't have faith in the process. you wonder how the electoral process is going and whether or not it's truly fair.

>> i'm afraid the vote may actually be reflective of where the egyptian population is. the people who are likely to be most intimidated are the coptic christians, making up 10% of the egyptian population. i think they would be not inclined at all to vote for the muslim brotherhood earth extreme islamists. if that vote is being intimidated, the muslim total could go even higher. martha: they are saying on the ground, we have greg palkot reporting from cairo on this. he's saying that the muslim brotherhood is basically saying we are a new muslim brotherhood. we are very open to change and treating this country in a very different way. what say you? then we've got to go. >> it's great propaganda. it reminds me of what happened tooth chinese communists in the 1930s and 40s, they said we are just agregorian reformers, there is nothing happening here.

i'm very much worried about what the real muslim brotherhood election threat wants to see and the possibility that they would cut a deal with the egyptian military, leave the military in charge of its economic power, leave the muslim brotherhood flee to impose very strict sharia law in egypt. martha: you said this might happen and we may be seeing it unfold. ambassador bolton thank you for talking to us. we'll keep an eye on it with your help. bill: mindy mccready pulled a fast one. in a custody battle with her own mother she disappeared. where is she today? we will we talk about the legal matter here in a moment. ♪ [singing] yet are so small, onl know you're wearing them.

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appeared in an episode of people's court. but it's what happened after dale smith got custody that shocked some people. watch here. because the missing woman's mother came over and gave him a hug. parker's mom said this about the decision she made about an embrace. >> i had things i needed to say to him. i haven't seen him since this has happened, and there are just things that i needed to say to him. bill: in the meantime the daughter is still missing. when asked by reporters if the parker family believes that smith harmed her, their attorney said, they really hope he did not. martha: a judge saying that country singer mindy mccready has until 5:00 eastern today to return her young son to the grandmother in florida. her mom has custody of this little boy, the boy is reportedly with mindy mccready in nashville according to her attorneys. we have the judge alex and he's

a former florida circuit judge. good morning, good to have you here today. >> good to be with you, martha, thanks. martha: basically her publicity folks and her attorneys say this is not an abduction any of kind, there is no amber alert out here. she is the mother of this child and she is taking care of him in nashville because she is concerned about his well-being in florida. >> yeah, that's what you would expect publicity people to say. that is what they do for a living. unfortunately they are absolutely wrong. she has violated florida law by taking a child who is lawfully in the custody of the child's grandmother, mindy mccready's mother. it's really strange because mindy mccready was waiting on a ruling as far as custody is concerned. she's been battling to get the child back after years of chronic drug problems, and then she goes and does this. which is kind of like shooting yourself in the head when you're waiting for a judge to decide whether you should get your child back or not. martha: it doesn't sound like a good way to go about it for sure. what about the jurisdiction in

the case? now she is in nashville. i guess it's a florida court that turned custody over to the grandmother. >> yeah, what happens is this. there is an interstate compact that deals with custody. what is going to happen today, because apparently mindy mccready yesterday issued a statement saying well now i can't bring her back because i'm seven months pregnant with twins, which apparently didn't prevent her from taking the child. martha: quitting the child there, exactly. >> right. it only interferes with her returning the child. the judge will not be impressed with that. i wouldn't be impressed with that. the judge will issued a bench warrant for her arrest and issue a pick up order for the child. that will be domesticated in nashville. the judge will order the sheriff to go out and pick up the child. she can be charged under the kidnapping laws in florida, it's now a separate statute, interfering with custody, it's a third degree felony punishable by up to five years in prison. martha: what about the people who -- her attorneys and her representatives, they say we know where shys. could they be considered accomplices if the police are actively searching for her and they don't tell them where she

is? >> no, no, i mean lawyers represent their client. martha: what about her representatives, her publicity folks, her spokesman, would they be compelled to say where she is if they can't find her and can't find the child? >> right now there are no criminal charges filed against her f. they were to like assist in hiding her that is one thing. nobody has any legal obligation to report anything. we found that out with regard to child abuse, which you would think there would be an obligation. they won't be in trouble for that. she faces a hard road if she keeps down this path. martha: judge alex this is a strange story. we'll see where it goes. thanks for being here. bill: jenna lee is coming up next. what is going on on "happening now" that will happen in ten minutes. jenna: it will happen in ten minutes that's for sure, and also "happening now," students in georgetown have discovered 3,000 miles of tunnels in china. what were they for? at least some for the movement

of nuclear arms. we'll talk about that. alreadyee sabato joins us as well. geraldo rivera is here to talk a little bit about michelle parker the missing mom and the latest chapter, i guess it is, bill in the saga that is the kardashians. we'll see you in a few minutes. bill: saga indeed. jenna if you have a camera -- you've got a phone on your camera, right? you have a phone or your camera. who has the right to delete your pictures? some police officers say they have that right, it's a first amendment issue, and that's next. ce? no problem. you want to save money on rv insurance? no problem. you want to save money on motorcycle insurance? no problem. you want to find a place to park all these things? fuggedaboud it. this is new york.

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bill: it seems like everybody has a camera handy when police make an arrest.

can police take that camera and erase what you've recorded? that's at the center of a first amendment fight that douglas kennedy has been looking into now. >> how many times have you baggy to punch her? >> reporter: a woman lies he bleeding on the ground after an altercation with police. >> is that necessary? >> reporter: an officer at the scene tells passers by to stop recording. >> turn that off. >> reporter: this was at peup pimlico race course in 2010. it was his friend who was on the ground. >> in the video we have you can't tell how she got so bloody. >> the police had her down on the ground and were beating her on the ground after they had subdued her. >> reporter: he said he recorded that part. he says when the baltimore police found out he confiscated his cellphone, then he said they

erased everything. sharp and his attorney from the american civil liberties union are suing the baltimore pd saying it violated the first amendmen amendment. to you this is a free speech issue. >> it is. police have a great tremendous amount of power over us. it's important that we as citizens have a right to hold the police accountable by recording their action stkpwhr-s this is not a free speech issue here. >> reporter: this is a former police officer and current advocate. he says it gets in the way. >> that's exactly what happened with that arrest in baltimore. >> reporter: some say people who video, including you that day disrupt law enforcement from doing their duty. >> i can't disagree more. i was nowhere close to the incident going on. >> reporter: he says he should have a right to record anyone he wants in public, especially, he says, a public servant, bill. bill: i think you're onto something, douglas.

when you think about something like this, it's going to get more and more popular. thanks, douglas kennedy here in our newsroom on that. >> reporter: good to see you bill. martha: bill want eastbound to do this story but i'm going to do it for you because i know you like these stories. mba player kris humphries is coming to the real lie lacing that many people may have had that his marriage to kim kardashian was nothing but a reality show stunt. say it isn't true. guess what he wants to do now? when we come back. ♪ [singing] are you receiving a payout from a legal settlement or annuity over 10 or even 20 years? call imperial structured settlements. the experts at imperial can convert your long-term payout into a lump sum of cash today.

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